| So, I'm pretty sure this comm is dead, but.. |
[24 Feb 2011|03:40pm] |
I wrote a poem for my best friend, the subject of all my strong platonic love, and I thought it might be of interest. :)
Friendship
You break past my shell. Like a spitting cobra, I attack. You shake me off. You're armour, and woeful. My friend.
Deep in the chasms of what I call fondly my corruption you tear the ropes of black thought. You tear til I am someone else. Someone happier.
In bleak barren bones, you see worth. In convulsions of genius, you see loneliness.
My friend, you are a creature of which I have no real conception. My friend, you lavish your time on me, you spoil me with contentment. And I exult.
I would rather spin a bitter existence than take joy in what you give me. But I am selfish. Perhaps one day you will find some shadow in your mind, your untainted garden, and I, taking my tape will seal your sadness away, too.
Sorry it's a bit dark and angst-ridden. Does anyone else know of or write their own poems dedicated to platonic love/to close friends?
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| Extreme Celibacy |
[24 Oct 2006|05:19am] |
Hi everyone, I recently joined LiveJournal and am writing about my celibacy journey. I am taking this journey, which is very much a spiritual one, in order to discover different ways of relating to the opposite sex. Pease click my picture to check out the journal. Thanks. XC
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[18 Jul 2006|04:28am] |
Does anyone seriously know of countries in which it is common for people to be platonically, physically affectionate in public? I suppose I mean mostly same-gender touching, but opposite gender is fine too, as long as it's platonic -- holding hands, touching overall, but nothing like making out or obviously romantic/sexual kisses.
I imagine some place like Italy, perhaps. I'm really looking for any trace at all of a country where it's day-to-day thing, if there's one at all.
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[15 Jun 2006|08:30pm] |
Just something I wrote in my own journal.
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So here I am again, wasting away time, waiting for it to be 8 or so before I go to bed. Currently, I'm thinking about family.
( A Plea for EvolutionCollapse )
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[26 May 2006|02:55pm] |
guess who
If I could say anything to you, I'd say Don't judge my heart by my body While both are on a quest to find their rhythym One is more holy than the other.
Don't judge a body by it's rhythym If it feels compelled to stretch and smoke Or furl and cool It's not up to you.
Take your hands off me now Lift your eyes You must step back from the consumption And see me without your hunger.
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[15 May 2006|08:38am] |
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'Evil is the vulgar lover who loves the body rather than the soul, inasmuch as he is not even stable, because he loves a thing which is in itself unstable, and therefore when the bloom of youth which he was desiring is over, he takes wing and flies away, in spite of all his words and promises; whereas the love of the noble disposition is life-long, for it becomes one with the everlasting.' -Plato's Symposium
I can understand the concept of human flesh being the manifestation of Evil, because Desire has a tendency to destroy the Soul. But as human beings, the challenge is for us to connect through the Souls as opposed to settling for Lust. I feel that one day I will be ready to have sex, and in fact, I have had several fantasies of doing so. But if actually given the opportunity to commit the act, I would feel extremely uncomfortable, because the people that I normally think of have no connection with my Soul. The idea of having sex with someone based on flesh bothers me, and I feel that remaining celibate until entering a monogamous relationship with a fellow Soul is the best thing for me. My main reasons for wanting to have sex later in life is to have at least one child, and I'd like to have that child with a soulmate. I've managed to handle my hormonal stages and have remained a virgin for all 19 years of my life, and I pray to have the strength to continue to do so. I manage to occupy my life with things that have depth and aren't overtly sexual, and I generally have no interest in sex at all at the moment. The connection of Souls is much more gratifying to me, a hug, a kiss on the cheek. I suppose the word sensuality is what I am looking for, though I don't receive it often because I prefer my lonesome on most occassions.
Nevertheless, platonic love is more valuable because it's purity and complete understanding and acceptance of the Soul has nothing to with biology, but with the spirit.
Good day.
- *Thyst*
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[02 Apr 2006|03:08am] |
oh gosh! i'm so glad i found this place.
intro, well... let's see.. my name is Emma, i live in PA. ive thought about the quote on the front page, and i think it is quite profound. currently i'm reading Osho's Love, Freedom, and Aloneness... and i found a few lines that i can truely relate with how i feel:
"Love is only possible when mediation has happened. If you dont know how to be centered in your being, if you dont know how to rest and relax in your being, if you dont know how to be utterly alone and blissful, you will never know what love is."
i can definetly relate that to my life as of right now... im having very strong, reoccuring, completely non-sexual but deep feelings for my ex (we broke up 3 years ago, i've been single since by choice)
i'm only going nuts about it, i just thought i'd try to find a place where other people agree.
:))
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| Today's Check |
[24 Jan 2006|10:23am] |
Pay to the order of: YOU The Amount of $1500 For: Whatever you desire Signed: The Universe
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| I thought this would be of interest in this community |
[20 Dec 2005|08:28am] |
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Weezer Singer Continues Vow of Celibacy
12/19/2005 12:20 PM, AP
Weezer lead singer Rivers Cuomo is continuing his celibacy past his self-declared deadline.
The 35-year-old frontman earlier vowed to remain celibate for two years. Although that deadline expired six months ago, Cuomo still doesn't expect to jump back in the sack anytime soon.
"It's been two and a-half years now, actually," Cuomo tells Blender magazine in its new issue, on newsstands Tuesday. "The vow is over, but I wanted to keep cruising."
Though he's a lead singer for a popular rock band, the bespectacled Cuomo says it's not difficult to manage restraint.
"Abstinence doesn't require as much self-discipline anymore," he says. "We never had any serious groupies, anyway. Our generation got screwed."
Cuomo's vow makes Weezer's 2005 music video for "Beverly Hills" somewhat unusual; it was filmed at the Playboy mansion with dozens of Playboy models and Weezer fans.
Earlier this year, Weezer released their fifth album, "Make Believe."
Cuomo is also pursuing a degree in English literature from Harvard University, for which he has one semester left.
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| Introductory post |
[21 Nov 2005|06:50pm] |
'Evil is the vulgar lover who loves the body rather than the soul, inasmuch as he is not even stable, because he loves a thing which is in itself unstable, and therefore when the bloom of youth which he was desiring is over, he takes wing and flies away, in spite of all his words and promises; whereas the love of the noble disposition is life-long, for it becomes one with the everlasting.' -Plato's Symposium
I find evil to be a strong word for the mere vulgarity of common physical desire without corresponding love for the soul and the person within, but I agree wholeheartedly with the point of the words above. Bodies and looks wither and change with age, illness, injury, or circumstance, but in my eyes, bodies are just vehicles, just parts, we've all got some combination of these parts, but it's the person within that gives it all life and character, what we do with what we have.
I suffered illness and damage as a newborn that nearly killed me, and left it's mark, I have never had a sex drive nor will I ever, even after hormonal supplementation, I'm dead to the world sexually, though you couldn't tell from looking at me, I'm merely pale and look young for my age, feel quite ageless actually, with normal hormonal levels and in great shape physically.
My only real disappointments are my relationships with people who know what they are getting into, and somehow never believe me, and things end because sex becomes an issue after all. In a world that cannot comprehend how I could exist, I live happily, and have build an interesting life in my 42 years.
I prefer the sensual to the sexual, and I live with my own anachronistic romantic standards, intelligence and wit are sensual to me, and I would prefer to see an elegant woman astride a horse or elegantly clothed than posing nude in an overt or sexual manner. Porn does nothing for me, nothing "turns me on", sex is simply not part of my life, sensual energy is so much more appealing to me, and I appreciate beauty for what it is, inside and out, they work together. A spiritual and emotional bond is stronger than any physical attraction I can ever imagine.
I'm quite fine in my own company, and have built a very interesting life over the years, I've accepted the likelihood that I'll be going through life alone, but I'd like to think that someday a life partner and love would be possible with someone very much like me, not only similar interests and energies but without the desire for sex. Communities like this give a little hope.
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[06 Apr 2005|04:33pm] |
Sorry if community promotion is not allowed. If it is not, I would be happy to remove my post.
Hello!
I recently started a community called differentloving geared towards a broad audience in attempts to find interesection and overlap in honest discussion about friendship and love without sexuality. The term Different Loving was probably most famously coined by the sucessful book by Gloria and William Brame of the same title. But in this instance it is meant to include a wide range of behaviors and lifestyles.
So much of our lives are controlled by sex. Constantly we are bombarded with sexual imagery and the pressure to be sexual by the media, our peer groups and social convention. It is my belief that this fixation with sex has diminished some of the capacity we have for real platonic intimacy between people that isn't shrouded in sexual tension. This is a place to discuss platonic relationships, or the desire to have them. It is a place to ask questions to one another, and to suggest resources for like-minds. My hope is to combine the knowledge and support of sexual and non-sexual people from all walks of life.
Thanks!
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| I Need Your Help! |
[04 Apr 2005|09:41am] |
Calling all those who live in London, UK!
An opportunity recently opened for me to possibly work as a masseuse for the London Walk-In Backrub company. But I need to pass an assessment, and hence I need bodies to practise on! I need to borrow your backs for a 10 minute routine. I can come to your place, you can come to mine, or I can even pop into places of work during lunchtime! We can also book a session in one of the walk-In centres in the proper backrub chair.
I really do need as many volunteers as possible before the 16th April.
The idea of physical connection and comfort in a professional capacity (you remain clothed and seated) should appeal to those thinking and pondering the Platonic Ideal.
With thanks! Kate
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[02 Mar 2005|01:31am] |
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Why does no one trust that boys and girls can have a meaningful friendship without involving sex?
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[28 Feb 2005|12:49pm] |
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I’m fairly new to this community so I apologise if this question has already been asked somewhere. I would like to know how many of you have had (or are in) successful platonic romantic relationships? Marriages or partner relationships that involve no sex? And your thoughts and experiences on this, or finding people willing to have platonic relationships.
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| Hi Everyone |
[17 Dec 2004|10:48pm] |
Hi! I just joined up and thought giving my opinion on this quote is a good idea....so here goes....
'Evil is the vulgar lover who loves the body rather than the soul, inasmuch as he is not even stable, because he loves a thing which is in itself unstable, and therefore when the bloom of youth which he was desiring is over, he takes wing and flies away, in spite of all his words and promises; whereas the love of the noble disposition is life-long, for it becomes one with the everlasting.' -Plato's Symposium
At first I thought plato was being a little extreme with the words "Evil" and "Vulgar" But is it not necessary? Our society seems to have very limited views of human interaction. You have your "just friends", your romantic lovers, your family, your church - and that is about it. And it all falls into one of those categories? Right? As many of you have found out...wrong. How many people run around looking for that special something only to fall prey to vulgarity-to sleeping around trying to fill their need to feel whole. That is evil at its fullest. Not necessarily is the person evil- but the situation.
So....Hi everyone! :)
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| some quotes from bell hooks |
[15 Nov 2004|11:49pm] |
Here are some quotes I've been meaning to post for a while - they're from "Communion" by bell hooks. She has a chapter on "romantic friendships" which I thought would be of particular interest to the list. So read, enjoy and, better yet, discuss! Another welcome to our newest members and it's wonderful to see the list so active!
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"Nonsexual erotic passion has little meaning in today's world. Nowadays the assumption is that something is wrong if an individual feels intense erotic connection with someone and does not allow that eros to lead him or her to sexual intercourse. Romantic friendships differ from other forms of friendships precisely because the parties involved acknowledge both that there is an erotic dimension to their passionate bond and that it acts as an energetic force, enhancing and deepening ties."
"Significantly, romantic friendships can coexist with the fact of partners' marrying, because their reason for being is not to replace marriage but to open up the possibility of sustained, committed true love existing among friends, and not just same-sex friends. No matter that our chosen relationship commitments change. Those of us who have long-term romantic friendships, some that have lasted longer than any of our marriages or partnerships, do not fear that these commitments will falter if we create other primary bonds. Our goal is to bond within a circle of love, of deep and abiding affections that are inclusive rather than exclusive."
"Significantly, Pagan Kennedy states 'I've come to think of committment as something beyond a marriage contract." She adds, 'We're not sure what to call ourselves. We have no holidays. We don't know what our future holds. We have only love and the story we are making up together."
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[15 Nov 2004|04:55pm] |
I'm so happy there is a community like this one, celebrating the beauty of platonic love. I have been moving slowly towards celibacy for some time now and find it a very satisfactory way to live. It took some time accepting the fact that sex is overrated and destructive to my most meaningful relationships. It is even harder finding those who share my sentiment.
One outlet I've found for my creative sexual energy is in the BDSM subculture. There I can play and interract with friends in a meaningful power exchange that is intimate and satisfying and even carnal - without the sexual exchange. Not to mention that in power exchange one's intentions are somewhat transparant and there isn't the same murkiness that I've always found to be a problem with sex. With power exchange, I never feel like I'm comprimising my sense of self. Regular sex (and especially monogamous sex) has always lead me to feel like my body is a part of a dialogue where it never gets to say what it means. Is there anyone else out there who has found power exchange to be a satisfying alternative as well?
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| highly sensitive persons |
[04 Oct 2004|09:51am] |
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I wonder if any considers himself/herself as an HSP.
HSPs pay a lot of attention to little details in their environment. They often feel stressed when watched or when there's put a lot of pressure on them. They're also very sensible to emotional moods in others and are very empathetic. Usually they are quite withdrawn and/or shy. Generally they need a lot of time alone to cope with feelings and stimuli from the outside world. They value friendship quite a lot and take their time to develop and grow their relationships.
I thought this could be a relevant topic in this community. Does anyone feel like an HSP too?
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| from your friendly moderator.. |
[03 Oct 2004|10:13am] |
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..as I'm currently visiting a friend for a few days (a platonic friend, curiously) I won't be back to Denver and to regular 'Net access until Sunday Oct. 10th. So be good and no wild parties while I'm gone. ;)
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